"Mumakore mashanu, 5% yevashandi vezvokurapa vachafara, havazofari nevechidiki"

Mumusangano unotora maawa anopfuura matatu, makoroji ezvokurapa uye Xunta vakaedza vhiki ino kuti vawane mhinduro kumatambudziko ehutano hweGalician. Musangano uyu wakapera nekukakavadzana mushure memamwe mazwi aivhiringa kubva kuGurukota rezvehutano, Julio García Comensaña, izvo zvaiita kunge zvinoratidza kuti vanachiremba vaikurudzira kuvharwa kwenzvimbo dzehutano. Lago anotenda kuti mutungamiri weXunta, Alfonso Rueda, akazojekesa nyaya yacho, asi anodana matanho kuitira kuti vanachiremba vasava nemapurogiramu akazara uye vanogona kupa basa rakanaka kuvarwere.

—Mukati memusangano neSanidade, makoreji ekurapa akadyara kuvharwa kwenzvimbo dzehutano here?

"Kwete, hapana nguva. Musangano uyu waive wakanaka uye nechido cheXunta mukugadzirisa matambudziko ehutano. Mumwe wemitsetse mitsvuku yakaiswa ndewekuti nzvimbo dzehutano ndizvo zvavari uye havabatike. Uyezve, iyo pfungwa inogara ichigadzira yakawanda kuti iswedere pedyo nehuwandu hwevanhu. Zvatiri kuedza ndezvekuti vanachiremba vasave nehurongwa hwevarwere makumi matanhatu.

—Iye Xunta haanawo kuisimudza?

-Kana, mutungamiri weXunta aifanira kuenda kunogadzirisa dambudziko. Hatina kunzwisisa zvakaitika, kana mupi wezano akazvinzwa, kana kuti hatizive, takashamiswa zvikuru.

-Mutungamiri weGalician akatsanangura kuti kugadziridzwa kwakagadziriswa, zvingaitwe sei?

-Takataura nezvekuti ingadai yakagadzirisa sei zvinodikanwa zvesaiti yega yega ine vanachiremba kana vashoma. Nguva zhinji unosangana nenzvimbo dzine vana chiremba vakawanda uye vanenge vasingatarisire huwandu hwevarwere hwavanenge vakamirira kune dzimwe nzvimbo. Ndosaka achitaura nezvekufamba.

—Pfungwa iyi yakabva kuMinistry kana kumaCollege?

Yakanga iri nhaurirano inovaka. Takabva pamusangano tichifara uye kunyange mutungamiri wenyika akatidaidza zvakare mukati memwedzi mishanu kana mitanhatu kuti vaone kuti zviri kufamba sei. Kufarira kwakave nemutungamiri weXunta mukugadzirisa dambudziko rehutano kwakatifadza, isu takanga tisingatarisiri kuti izvi zvichabuda kune peteneras.

—Zvinoita here kutamisa vanachiremba kubva kuzvipatara?

-Izvo zvinoda ongororo, nekuti zvinofanirwa kutariswa zvakadzama pakati nepakati. Ministry inoziva mwero wekubvunzana, mutoro wekuchengeta...

- Zvikoro zvinobvunza kuti vanachiremba vakazvimiririra vagamuchire iyo chaiyo mubatsiri uye iyo Xunta inoita seinovhura kusvika pachiyero.

-Kana tiine vanachiremba vashoma muhurongwa hweveruzhinji uye mubairo uchienzaniswa nawo wakaderera uye isu hatipe mukana wekuti munguva yavo yekusununguka vanogona kuzvipira kune chimwe chinhu kuti vatsigire miripo yavo, kusaenzana nevamwe vavanoshanda navo. Vanachiremba vaigona kuuya kuGalicia havauye nekuti iyo yekuwedzera haina kubhadhariswa pano. Kune nharaunda mbiri muSpain yese, Galicia neAsturias, uye Asturias iri kutozvigadzirisa, iko kurasikirwa kukuru kwehupfumi.

—Kubhadharwa kweiri basa rekuwedzera kukwezva vanachiremba?

—Pamwe munhu anodonha, asi chatisingadi ndechekuti nyanzvi dzinoshanda mumishonga yeveruzhinji dziende kumishonga yakazvimirira. Iwe unofanirwa kuvapa imwe nzira, kuti vanogona kuenzanisa uye kwete kurasikirwa nemari iyoyo.

-Anenge 800 euros pamwedzi

- Iwo chaiwo anozadzisa mapoka zvinyorwa zvina uye chimwe chete ndicho kuzvipira kwakasarudzika, mamwe matatu ane kodzero yekuzvitora.

-Iyo Xunta inokumbira tsigiro yekuwedzera kweMIR zvinzvimbo kuti iwane varapi vekutanga vanochengeta uye vana chiremba. Zvikoro zvaizovapa here?

-Kubva muna 2009, mvumo haina kupihwa yekutsiva boka revanachiremba vaifara. Vanhu vanga vachitora zvigaro zvakawanda, zvekutanga. Iye zvino chiyero chekutsiva 120% uye hazvina kukwana, mumakore mashanu 33% yevanachiremba vachasiya basa. Dambudziko rinomuka nderekutevera: kana ivo zvino vatumira mazana maviri vagari vezvekurapa, hatigone kuvadzidzisa, hatina kudzidzisa vanachiremba. Pamusoro pezvo, isu hatina maitiro zvekuti takatsigira nzvimbo dzekupa dzidziso iyi. Sezvo kusina vanachiremba vanodzidzisa, dambudziko racho rakakura.

Sei pasina varairidzi?

-Chiremba anodzidziswa anoda nguva, anofanira kuva nemaawa mashoma ekubatsirwa uye maawa mashoma ekudzidzira. Nzvimbo idzi dzinofanirwa kusangana nenhevedzano yemamiriro asina kuiswa neBazi, asi neHurumende. Imwe mhando yemasemina inodiwa kuti ugone kudzidzisa. Yakakosha zvikuru nekuti ichadyisa hurongwa hweveruzhinji.

"Ndezvipi zvingagadziriswa?"

—Chero vana chiremba vakawanda vasingasviki, zvinotora makore mana kana mashanu, unofanira kuedza kusarasikirwa nevaya vanobuda pamusoro. Kana vechidiki vasati vasvika, avo vanosiya basa pa65 vanofanira kuchengetwa kuitira kuti vagare, kuitira kuti vave varairidzi, kana kuti vawedzere, sezvinoitwa nevatongi, kurega kwavo kusvika vasvitsa makore 62, asi kunofanira kuva kunokwezva kuti vanotsaurira makore iwayo avaigona kutsaurira kuti vafare. Iwe unofanirwa kuita kuti inakidze zvakare pazasi. Kupinda mushonga, iyo yakatemwa-yega mukusarudza ndeimwe yepamusoro. Pandakanga ndiri mugore rokutanga remujaho muSantiago takanga tiri 1.100 350, zvino tava 5. Mwero wokukundikana uri pasi peXNUMX%. Une vanhu vane ruzivo rwakanyanya vakaisa mari yakawanda kuvadzidzisa uye isu tinovasiya mumaoko aMwari vasina kupedza mubatsiri wavo, hunova hunyanzvi hwavo. Zvingave zvakafanira kupa iyo MIR spin nekuti iyo hupfumi hwevanhu haigone kurasika, uyezve kuhaya vasiri veEU vagari vanoziva madzidzisirwo avanoitwa.

Uri kutaura nezvekudzvinyirira MIR? Iyo 37% yekurasikirwa yakabvumidzwa haina kuwana nzvimbo.

-Kwete, iyo MIR chiito chakanaka kwazvo chekudzidzisa nyanzvi. Iwe unofanirwa kugadzirisa huwandu hwenzvimbo chaidzo dzaunoda kune nyanzvi uye zvakanyanya haufanirwe kuita iyo MIR bvunzo pakutanga, asi pakupedzisira kana iwe uri pamusoro pechiitiko chako uye kunyanya vamwe vako vanoda. kuenderera mberi nekudzidziswa. Iyo MIR ndeye 4 kusvika kumakore matanhatu, chinhu chakakosha ikozvino kuchengetedza chiremba nezvibvumirano zvenguva refu. Kana iwe uine chiremba ari kushanda, uri kumupinza basa sei kwegore kana mwedzi mitanhatu? Mubairo unofanirawo kuenzana kuitira kuti chiremba asabva. MuPontevedra tinofamba vanachiremba vakawanda. Pandakasvika kukoreji yamasecretary kwaiva navanachiremba 6 vakanga vasingashandi kana kuti vaiva nezvibvumirano zvinochinja-chinja uye mumakore maviri pakanga pasina asara, vakanga vaenda kuPortugal.

—Bazi rinoramba richiti harisi kukwanisa kutsvaga vanachiremba. Ndizvo here kana kuti kwete?

-Izvo zvese zvinoenderana, kana uchivahaya kune chimwe chinhu chavasingaonekwe kwauri. PACS inofanirwa kuchengetwa nevashandi vane endowment, havangasiiwe na nurse, nekuti ane heart attack ndi nurse. Uye nekuchengetedza murwere.