—Pakatumirwa 155 (Gumiguru 27, 2017), wanga uchitoziva here kuti ndiwe uchave nemutoro wechikumbiro chayo? -Yakanga ichishanda kwenguva yakareba zvisati zvaitika. MuHurumende shandisa vhura zvese zvingangoitika, portal uye kuti zviitiko zvezvematongerwo enyika zvaiitika sei. Takanga tichishanda nehushumiri hwose uye nenzira yakafara kwazvo. Uye, zvine musoro, kubva kubazi reTerritorial Administration takapa huso hwakawanda, asi vese vanyori veHurumende vakaita basa rinoyemurika. -Izuva ripi rawakasvika muBarcelona? —Svondo masikati (October 29). Musangano wekutanga takaita Muvhuro mangwanani. Musangano weplenary weSeneti waiva musi weChishanu, musi weMugovera chirevo chakabudiswa nekudzingwa kwevakuru vematunhu, iyo meya weMossos d'Esquadra, Josep Lluís Trapero ... Uye neSvondo takataura nevakuru vakuru ve iyo Generalitat. - Vachagamuchira sei? -Pakutanga, taizosangana kuHurumende Delegation kana Generalitat, asi pakanga paine tarisiro huru yenhau, uye taitenda kuti zviratidziro hazvifanirwe kuitwa, sekurairwa neMutungamiriri weHurumende, Mariano Rajoy, uye Mutevedzeri weMutungamiri. , Soraya Sáenz de Santamaría, akasarudza kusangana munzvimbo ine kuchenjera zvikuru. Musangano wekutanga waive muVia Layetana, pedyo neNational Police station, muchivako cheGeneralitat. "Ndiani akapinda musangano wenyu?" —Taive mutungamiriri mukuru weRelations neAutonomous Communities and Local Entities, Enrique Lasso de la Vega, ari gweta reHurumende uye akagadzirira zvikuru; Mukuru wangu weVashandi, Eloísa Contin; Víctor Cullell, Munyori weHurumende; Joaquim Nin, Munyori Mukuru weVatungamiri Vanozvimirira; Neniwo. Haana kudzinga chero munyori mukuru. Nhau Dzinoenderana nehurumende inodzoreredza masevhisi ehungwaru Kwete Sánchez anonetesa Nyika pamberi peimwe inogoneka kuzvidzivirira Pablo Muñoz Nationalism, nhasi yakapatsanurwa zvakanyanya, ari kutsvaga zano rinoibatanidza zvakare kuti itange yakananga 'maitiro'. "Akadzidza kubva mukukanganisa kwake muna 2017 uye isu, zvakadaro, takaputsa zvivakwa zvekumurwisa" - Vakagara muBarcelona here? —Hungu, boka racho rakanga riri muhotera. Taigara muBarcelona mazuva akati kuti pavhiki. Upenyu hwedu hwakanga huri hwokubva muhotera kuenda kuNhume dzeHurumende uye kubva ipapo kuenda kumisangano nevakuru vakuru veGeneralitat yaiwanzoitwa muPedralbes Palace. Vakatarisa Pedralbes, kana mamiriro ezvinhu angogadziriswa uye vakuru vakuru vakaona zvakadzikama kuti manejimendi haana kukanganiswa. -Chii chaiva hurongwa hwekushanda? —Patakasvika takatsanangura kuti zvaizoshanda sei. Kanzuru imwe neimwe yakapasisa nhau dzacho kuti dzibvumire ushumiri humwe nohumwe hunowirirana kuti vagogona kuhusimudza, pashure pemvumo yedu, kuDare reMakurukota, iro rakazovabvumira pakupedzisira. Zvinyorwa zvaifanira kuitwa mushumo unowirirana weGeneral Intervention yeGeneralitat, kubvumirwa kweGeneral Secretariat yePresidency kunoenderana nazvo, zvose zvakakumbirwa zvakanga zvakakodzera kumutemo. Vakatsanangura zvavaida kuita, vakatiitisa nharo tikaenda nazvo kuCouncil of Ministers. - Pakanga pasina kusada? —Mamiriro acho ezvinhu akanga akaoma zvikuru. Hapana aiziva kuti zvaizofamba sei. Asi takabuda pachena nevakuru vakuru veGeneralitat. Vachinzwisisa mamiriro acho ezvinhu, uye vakakwanisa kusiya basa pasina dambudziko guru, asi vakanga vakajeka kuti Hurumende yaizoita chimwe chinhu, ichishandisa 155 uye kudzorera zvakajairika muCatalonia. Aigona kuenda kana kugara. Ehe, kana varamba varipo vanozofanira kubatana. Hapana akaderera. "No complain, no protests?" -Aihwa. Patakaita kuparadzwa kwechimwe chinhu kana kubviswa kwayo, zvimwe, kusvika pamwero mukuru kana mudiki, zvichitsigira kuvepo kwesangano. Normal algorithm. Asi vakateerera zvakanga zvasarudzwa. Ini ndinonzwisisa kuti kune vamwe vakazvimiririra zviri nyore, ikozvino, tsanangura kuti kubatana mukushandiswa kwe155. "Aingova musimba rake here?" —Patakaishandisa, hapana aiziva kuti tozviita sei. Yakanga yakaoma uye yakapfava. Zvaifanira kuitwa zvakaitwa. Kudzorerwa kwemaitiro emasangano. Sarudzo (dzaDecember) yaive sarudzo yakanakisa yakagamuchirwa. Zviri pachena kuti zvinhu hazvimbofa zvaitwa nemunhu wese. Asi, hongu, zvakanga zvakanaka uye zvakakodzera zvakaitwa. Pazuva rekutanga takadzinga vanhu vanodarika zana nemakumi mashanu uye takavhara mahofisi kunze kwenyika. Hurumende yakatevedza mutemo, haina simba rekuita zvimwe. -Pedro Sánchez akasimbirira kuti chinhu chakanakisa chesocial imhaka yekuregererwa. -MuCatalonia hapazove nekuvandudzwa chero bedzi mamwe mamiriro asina kukundwa, senge nyaya yedzidzo zvakare muchiSpanish kana kugarisana munzvimbo dziri mukati menyika. Hurumende inofanira kudzorera nzvimbo yayo. Muna 2017, ERC haina kana kurota kuve nepesvedzero yainayo nhasi muHurumende, iyo kwandiri yakawandisa. Ndinotenda kuti mazano ese anoenderana neBumbiro reMitemo, asi nguva dzose mukati memutemo. “155 hatina kunyorerwa kwemakore 20, taive nemwedzi minomwe. Nguva yakakodzera uye yakakodzera» Bermúdez de Castro —Nei dzidzo isina kupindira? —Vane 155 havana kukumbirwa kwemakore 20, takava nemwedzi minomwe. Nguva yakakodzera uye inodiwa. Chaunofanirwa kuita kutevedzera mutemo, nguva dzose, ikozvino zvakare nemitsetse munyaya dzemitauro. "Unofunga kuti vachaedza zvakare here?" — Venyika vanoziva kuti Hurumende kana ichinge yaona yarwiswa, kureva kuti kana munhu atyora mutemo, inoita. Mutemo uripo kuti uzadziswe. Ndinovimba Hayan adzidza chidzidzo chake. Mumazuva iwayo, kwaisangova nekubvumirana kukuru mukushandisa zana nemakumi mashanu neshanu, asi vanhu vazhinji vanobva kwakasiyana vakadairawo. ivo vanofanira kuziva kuti kana vakaedza kutyora miganhu yemutemo ivo vanopfumisa nzanga yeCatalan. Bumbiro redu reMitemo rakafara zvakakwana kuti rikwanise kunzwisiswa zvakasiyana, asi zvese zvichitevedza mutemo. ZVIMWE ZVAKAWANDA noticia No Concentration pamberi peCongress vachishevedzera "Sánchez traitor" for ceding memory to Bildu noticia Hongu Is secessionism ichiri pasi pekutonga kwevatungamiri ve unilateral declaration of experience? —Chokutanga, batira pamwe huru iyo yakanga iripo yakabva kunyika dzakasiyana-siyana dzeHurumende. Aive mamiriro ezvinhu akaoma uye ndakaona kuti tinogara munyika iyo kana yarwiswa inopindura. Pachangu, yakanga iri nguva yakaoma zvikuru uye yakaoma zvikuru. Zvekupfeka zvakanyanya. Pashure pemakore mashanu, hongu, ndine hana yakachena zvikuru. Mitemo yangu haina kuchinja.
