ʻO Alejandro Macarrón Larumbe (Avilés, 1960), he ʻenekinia a me ke kūkākūkā ʻoihana, ʻo ia kekahi o nā loea alakaʻi ma Sepania i nā pilikia demographic. ʻO ia ka coordinator o ka Demographic Observatory o ke Kulanui ʻo CEU San Pablo. ʻO kona hopohopo no nā pilikia lōʻihi o Sepania i alakaʻi iā ia e aʻo i ka helu hānau. ʻO ia ka mea kākau o nā puke 'The demographic suicide of Spain' a me 'Demographic suicide in the West and half the world', a me kekahi. —Ua hāʻule ka helu hānau ma Sepania i ka pae haʻahaʻa loa mai ka makahiki 1941? He aha ka mea e hana nei iā mākou? —ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka helu o nā pēpē i kēia manawa he ʻano maʻamau o ke kenekulia 1941 a i ʻole ma mua (i ka makahiki XNUMX ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ka hana hānau INE). Eia ke hana ʻia e like me ka honua holoʻokoʻa, ma kahi ʻano ʻoi aku ka hoʻohanohano: ʻoi aku ka liʻiliʻi o ka poʻe makemake e hānau keiki a hoʻokumu i nā ʻohana paʻa. ʻO kēlā me kēia hanauna o Spaniards he 40% a i ka 45% ka liʻiliʻi ma mua o ka mea ma mua. — ʻOiai e hāʻule ka helu hānau ma Sepania, ʻoi aku ka nui o nā poʻe ma mua o ka honua? —Ke piʻi mau nei ka heluna kanaka o ka honua, ʻoi aku ma ʻApelika, akā ʻoi aku ka mālie. No ka Spaniard a i ʻole ʻEulopa, he mea hōʻoluʻolu liʻiliʻi kēia ulu ʻana, me ka piʻi ʻana o ko mākou lāhui maoli i kēlā me kēia makahiki ma muli o ka haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa o ka hānau ʻana, a me ka emi ʻana. Loaʻa iā mākou he miliona mau make ma mua o ka hānau ʻana o nā poʻe Spaniards mai ka makahiki 2013. —He aha ke kumu o kēia 'pepehiicide'? — He paʻakikī nā kumu. Kūleʻa nā mea a pau e pili ana i nā loina moʻomeheu, ʻaʻole nā mea waiwai. I nā ʻāina waiwai loa a i nā makahiki o ka hoʻokele waiwai ʻaʻole ia he mea nui. ʻO ka helu hānau a me ka ʻohana kūpaʻa ua hoʻohaʻahaʻa ʻia i ka nui o nā makemake a me nā kānāwai, a pēlā nō. — ʻO wai ke kuleana o kēia ʻano: nā kāne a wahine paha? - Likelike. Ma ka awelika, ʻaʻohe makemake e hānau keiki he nui. Inā he kuleana nui ʻoe, ʻoiai ʻaʻole nau nā mea a pau, ua paʻa ka poʻe kālai'āina a me nā alakaʻi naʻauao i nā loina a me nā kānāwai anti-birth and anti-family. —Aia kekahi mea hiki ke hoʻoneʻe ʻia ma kēia kaʻina hana inā mākou e nānā iā Sepania e kona mau ʻāpana a i ʻole nā hui kaiaulu. —O ka Canary Islands a me Asturias ka momona haahaa loa ma Sepania a me Europa. ʻO Castilla y León ka ʻāina ʻEulopa me nā makahiki he 85. Ma nā panalāʻau e like me Orense a i ʻole Zamora aia ma kahi o ʻehā mau make no kēlā me kēia hānau ʻana. Ma kahi ʻē aʻe, ʻo ka poʻe malihini Muslim a / a i ʻole ʻApelika (ʻoi aku ma mua o 70% Moroccan) a me nā ʻohana i pili i nā neʻe Katolika e like me Opus Dei a i ʻole ka Neocatechumenal Way he ʻekolu a ʻoi aku paha nā keiki i kēlā me kēia wahine. Manaʻo wau he nui nā keiki o nā gypsies ma mua o ka awelika, akā emi iho ma mua. —Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe "ʻo nā keiki i hānau ʻole ʻia i kēia lā, ʻo ia nā limahana e pono ai lākou i nā makahiki 25 a i ʻole 30". He aha ka hopena waiwai o ka hoʻoilo demographic? —Inā e emi ana ka nui o ke kālā kanaka i ka nui (ʻoi aku ka liʻiliʻi o nā kānaka) a me ka 'maikaʻi' (ke mau nei ia, kahiko loa), he aha ka mea e holo maikaʻi ai i ka holo lōʻihi o ka hoʻokele waiwai (a me nā mea āpau)? Hiki iā mākou ke manaʻo i ka emi ʻana o ka ʻai, hoʻopukapuka, huahana, ʻoihana, hana hou, hoʻolilo i nā penikala a me ke olakino, ka waiwai o nā waiwai waiwai ... ʻO ka pakeneka o nā Spaniards e noho wale nei i kēia manawa he ʻeono manawa ma mua o ka makahiki 1970), ma muli o ka nele o nā keiki a me ka haki ʻana o ka ʻohana, me ke kaumaha, ka luuluu a me ka pilikia o ke olakino, e hōʻemi ana i kā lākou loaʻa kālā maoli no nā mea he nui. ma na hale. ʻO ka neʻe ʻana ka hopena, e like me ka ʻōlelo a Kuhina Escrivá? -Aʻole. Ma ka ʻoihana waiwai, hiki ke lilo i mea hoʻoponopono hapa wale nō, ʻo ka hapa nui no nā hana haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa, no ka mea, ke huki nei mākou i nā hana haole akamai loa, ʻo ia ka mea e pono ai. A inā ʻoi aku ka nui o ka neʻe ʻana ma mua o ka mākeke hana, ma muli o kahi hypertrophied Welfare State, e like me Sepania mai ka makahiki 2008, ʻaʻole ia e hoʻohui i ka waiwai i ka poʻe Spaniards a me nā malihini, akā hoʻemi ʻia e ka spurts. ʻAʻole hiki iā ia ke hoʻoponopono i ka desertification affective ma muli o ka nele o nā keiki a me ka wāwahi ʻohana. "No ke aha i mālama ʻole ai nā kānaka a pau i kēia pilikia?" —Ma muli o ka lohi loa o ka hana ʻana, he mea hōʻoluʻolu ʻole ia no nā poʻe he nui a aia nā manaʻo politika anti-natalist a me nā kuʻuna kūʻē i ka ʻohana, ʻaʻole i kū i ko lākou mau hoa kūʻē kuʻuna. —Aia anei kekahi aina holomua i hiki ke hoohuli i keia hana? — ʻO ka ʻIseraʻela wale nō ka maikaʻi o ka hānau ʻana ma waena o nā ʻāina i kūkulu ʻia, ma muli o kāna poʻe liʻiliʻi hoʻomana hoʻomana a me kona heluna Arab. ʻO ke koena, ʻaʻohe mea i hoʻohuli loa i ke kaʻina hana, akā ke hoʻomaikaʻi nei kekahi, e like me Hungary, a i ʻole ko lākou momona ma mua o kā mākou (ʻoiai ʻaʻole lawa a haʻahaʻa), e like me Farani a i ʻole kekahi mau ʻāina Scandinavian. "He hiki ʻole ke hoʻohuli ʻia kēia a ʻaʻole paha?" "Aole hiki ke hai aku." He haʻahaʻa wale nō kā mākou hānau hānau no kekahi mau makahiki, a liʻiliʻi a ʻaʻohe mea i hana ʻia e pili ana i kēia ma nā ʻāina e like me Sepania. —E ola anei ka capitalism i kēia ʻano demographic? —ʻAʻole e ola ka capitalism a i ʻole kekahi ʻōnaehana politika a ʻoihana ʻē aʻe i ka nalo ʻana o ke kaiāulu, e pane mai ʻo Don Perogrullo iā ʻoe. —Pehea kou manao no ke ano o ka 'perrihijos'? -Inā he hanana nui ia, a me he mea lā ke lilo nei ia, he mea kaumaha loa iaʻu ke pani ʻia nā keiki e nā ʻīlio. —He aha kāu e ʻōlelo ai i kahi wahine ʻōpio e ʻōlelo nei ʻaʻole hiki ke mālama ʻia nā keiki no ka honua. -Kiuke loa. ʻO ka mea mua, he manaʻo ʻepekema ʻole, alarmist a anti-humanist. ʻO ka lua, ʻoiai inā he ʻoiaʻiʻo, pili ia i nā uku me ka ulu ʻana o ka heluna kanaka, ʻaʻole i ka poʻe Sepania a me ʻEulopa, e emi nui nei.
